PP schneller als FP beim Deltachrome?

[robbitop]

Das untersuche ich gerade. Laut Fillratetester ist das nur beim Per Pixel Lighting der Fall. Per 3DAnalyze habe ich beim 3DM03 den PS2 Test mal auf FP(12fps) und mal auf PP (17fps) gezwungen. Nun frage ich mich natürlich, ob hier Per Pixel Lighting zum Einsatz kommt, oder ob noch irgendetwas anderes beim DC schneller mit PP ist.

Eine andere Frage: der GPU Bench erkennt den Deltachrome nicht "unknown Vendor ID". Kann man da etwas machen?

[Coda]

Es gibt nicht das Per Pixel Lighting :rolleyes:

[robbitop]

Es gibt nicht das Per Pixel Lighting :rolleyes:
Bringst du außer dem hier noch etwas Produktives?

[Coda]

:|

Das war produktiv. Du kannst nicht aus dem Fillratetester-Per Pixel Benchmark schließen dass Per Pixel Lighting generell schneller ist, da gibt's tausend Abwandlungen (Normalisierung per Cubemaps etc. pp.)

Besser wäre zu ergründen warum der per-pixel Shader dort schneller ist.

[robbitop]

:|

Das war produktiv. Du kannst nicht aus dem Fillratetester-Per Pixel Benchmark schließen dass Per Pixel Lighting generell schneller ist, da gibt's tausend Abwandlungen (Normalisierung per Cubemaps etc. pp.)

Besser wäre zu ergründen warum der per-pixel Shader dort schneller ist.

Nein erst das hier war produktiv. Denn ein abgehakter Satz hilft mir nicht weiter ;)
Schließlich lernt man nie aus.

[IVN]

Is there another application thats taking advantage of pp????

P.S. Could you try HF2??

[robbitop]

Is there another application thats taking advantage of pp????

P.S. Could you try HF2??

Till now ...no.

what do ya mean w/ HF2?

[MadManniMan]

HF2?

Soll wohl HL2 heißen ;)

Und warum so zickig? Bist ja fast so schlimm wie aths :D *und weg*

[IVN]

Soll wohl HL2 heißen ;)

Yeah,Half F*ck 2 :biggrin:

Try to force it with 3DAnalyze.




P.S. Can you tell us something about GC ???Have you got it yet?? @ robbitop

[robbitop]

Yeah,Half F*ck 2 :biggrin:

Try to force it with 3DAnalyze.




P.S. Can you tell as something about GC ???Have you got it yet?? @ robbitop

I don't have hl2. But I tried far cry - research. Forced PP/FP with 3DAnalyze. Same results here. It seems that only some shader functions are faster w/ PP but not all.

[IVN]

I don't have hl2. But I tried far cry - research. Forced PP/FP with 3DAnalyze. Same results here. It seems that only some shader functions are faster w/ PP but not all.

And,can you tell me something about GC (insider info),i'm interested???
:confused:

[robbitop]

And,can you tell me something about GC (insider info),i'm interested???
:confused:
Not before my new article is been released. I don't want to public these informations before. :)

[IVN]

Not before my new article is been released. I don't want to public these informations before. :)

OK,no problem.When will this article be finished??

[robbitop]

OK,no problem.When will this article be finished??
When it's done ;). ATM I'm collecting and verifiing informations, sorting them and cut NDA things out. Maybe there'll be a few hints in it..I dunno.
The article will be in english and german thistime, so it takes a bit longer.
I think I'm ready in april, but our chief is a bit slowly in the publication process (S3 vs XGI needed aprox 2 months from final state to publication).
But I think this time it wont take as long as the last time.
Parallel to this "information and guide" article about S3/XGI there'll be an driver compare arcticle and a GammaChrome article (I hope I can get a sample quiete fast).

[IVN]

When it's done ;).

I hope you wont need 4 years like J.C ?? :uhammer2:

No seriously,can you at least tell me when will GC be released to the market???

[IVN]

When it's done ;). ATM I'm collecting and verifiing informations, sorting them and cut NDA things out. Maybe there'll be a few hints in it..I dunno.
The article will be in english and german thistime, so it takes a bit longer.
I think I'm ready in april, but our chief is a bit slowly in the publication process (S3 vs XGI needed aprox 2 months from final state to publication).
But I think this time it wont take as long as the last time.
Parallel to this "information and guide" article about S3/XGI there'll be an driver compare arcticle and a GammaChrome article (I hope I can get a sample quiete fast).

I'm considering to buy a barebone for my living room.And,as you might expect it should be a low power design with the latest and gratest tehnology.Maybe something from Aopen based on Pentium M and 915 NB.A GC should be perfect for this task. *the reason for my curiosity*

[robbitop]

Nadeem told me GC will be released in the next 2 or 3 weeks in USA. The first time the cards will be available only from S3 itself, later club3d will bring the chromes to the market.

[IVN]

Nadeem told me GC will be released in the next 2 or 3 weeks in USA. The first time the cards will be available only from S3 itself, later club3d will bring the chromes to the market.

So s3 will be producing their own card just like XGI??

[q@h]

But I tried far cry - research. Forced PP/FP with 3DAnalyze. Same results here. It seems that only some shader functions are faster w/ PP but not all.
Was heisst "dasselbe Resultat hier"? Wurde FC auch um ~50% schneller, wie der PS2.0-Test im Murks?

[robbitop]

nein, FP = PP Performance bei FC.

@IVN
seems so, the package of the cards I've seen got no vendor sign on it, just the S3 graphics logo.

[Coda]

Robbitop hast du schonmal Vergleichsscreenshots gemacht? Es könnte ja sein, dass das force pp gar nicht richtig funktioniert.

Wann kommt denn jetzt der Gammachrome? Ich möchte vielleicht einen kaufen...

[robbitop]

hm sieht man den Unterschied an einer Stelle besonders markant zw FP16 und FP24?
Im Shadermark 2.1 brachte FP16 vs default die gleichen Ergebnisse. Der Fillratetester hat für jedem Shader PP/FP das gleiche ergebnis ausser bei per pixelshading.

[Gast]

hm sieht man den Unterschied an einer Stelle besonders markant zw FP16 und FP24?


beim shadermark bei shader 8, 14 und 15, bei farcry weiß ich das leider nicht.

[robbitop]

beim shadermark bei shader 8, 14 und 15, bei farcry weiß ich das leider nicht.
Ich bezog mich mit der Frage nur auf FC.